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The thing
inside of me, it's like...

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the appetite,
it's like a wolf that's...

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feeling...
the hunger.

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[Dr. Delatorre] I think any time
there's the concept

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of an unprovoked attack,

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the idea of
unpredictable violence

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is something that's very
unsettling for -- for anybody.

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The fact that this attack
appeared to be out of the blue

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and unprovoked is, by itself,
very worrisome.

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When you add the layer that
he's already got charges,

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he's got a history of
criminality, that's what brings

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the question of psychopathy
into it.

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Often individuals start out
with lower-level crimes

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and then graduate, as it were,
to more severe things,

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including an escalation
of violence.

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These individuals have been
duct-taped and dragged

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and beaten with blunt objects.

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There is a level of savagery
here that's unexpected,

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given the profile that these
two individuals,

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Wendy and Randall Bjorge,
of being people who were

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pillars of the community.

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There's a distinct odor of
bleach that was meant to mask

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the smell of a corpse, right?

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It looked like that there was
a party there.

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It's disturbing on its face,
because it shows again that

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whoever did this crime
flaunted it.

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They wanted to take what was
the Bjorges' and use it for

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their own selves,
and they wanted

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to dance on the graves
of these two bodies.

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[reporter] On Saturday,
police found the bodies

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of the grandparents
inside their Furlong Run home.

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A short time later,
authorities were finally able

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to track down Bjorge and Rider.

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Police say the two tried
to kill themselves

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as a SWAT team
surrounded them.

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[Dr. Vienna] So what we know
about Cassie Bjorge here

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is that she's no stranger
to law enforcement.

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She has a history
of early behavior problems,

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running away for days at a time,

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not getting along with
her mother,

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having the police called
to her house 31 times.

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She's describing
her woes in life,

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her troubles, her challenges.

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And I think that's because
she's setting the stage

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for a possible excuse
of why this all happened.

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She's just not taking any
responsibility and creating

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a new narrative, which could
possibly be a defense for her.

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What's interesting is that
we see Cassie Bjorge's
body language,

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and even the range of emotion,
be very shallow.

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She's very conversational.
She's very matter of fact.

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This is such a violent crime,
violent offense.

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Two people murdered,
her grandparents at that,

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and she has really no emotion,
no remorse about it.

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She's just so willing to talk
about her story with officers,

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probably because
she wants to have it heard.

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I think what happens here is
you see on full display

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the disconnect that Cassie has
with understanding

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how much of a problem
her behavior has been

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in taking any responsibility
for that.

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Instead, how she perceives
all of these mishaps

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is that she's been rejected
by her grandparents.

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You know,
she's the victim here,

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probably because
her ego can't, you know,

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handle the fact that
she did wrong.

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There's an eerie feeling that
you get when you listen

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to her describe this act,
because it's cold,

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it's detached, it's calculated.

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She is feeding off of
the emotional state that

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she is experiencing.

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She is enjoying it.

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She's literally having
a good time doing this.

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[Dr. Vienna] Part of
the narcissistic traits

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that are very prominent here
is Cassie

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dehumanizing her grandmother.

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You know, it's --
she makes the comment,

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"It's so gross
that she peed herself."

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And it's like, well,
she was in fear.

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You were
beating her to death,

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and we're not seeing any sort
of remorse or empathy for that.

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We're just seeing Cassie being
self-centered --

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"It's about me.
I was grossed out."

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And she's offended that people
are not understanding

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that it's perfectly plausible,
in her mind, that to caulk

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the doors, and to invite
people over,

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and to take
Snapchat videos,

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all of this stuff
makes sense to her.

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There's an element of
fantasy life being played here,

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but the fantasy life is not
her and Rider being together

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and having a house.

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The fantasy is her
not having any authority

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imposing its will
onto what she wants to do.

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[Dr. Delatorre] In their dreams,
they wanna be Bonnie and Clyde.

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But these two, all they really
want is to have

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the freedom and authority that
their parents and grandparents

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are just trying to take away
from them.

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She's just wanting
to be reductive

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in how she's approaching
her criminality.

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And because it's coming
as a partnership,

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the element is Bonnie and Clyde,

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because there really isn't
anything other that
she could use.

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[Dr. Saraiya]
Compared to being in-depth,

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these feelings
are absolutely superficial.

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But even beyond
being superficial,

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they're -- they're not her own.

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You know,
they're her imagination

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of what she's supposed to
feel like.

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And certainly,
she is very much focused on,

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as psychopaths tend to be,

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on herself and her own needs.

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There's no emotion behind it.

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She's sort of choosing
the words that she kind of

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quickly in the moment
is sort of figuring out, like,

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"How am I -- oh, they're
asking me this for a reason.

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Oh, right, this is how
I'm supposed to be feeling."

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[Dr. Saraiya] For Cassie Bjorge
and Johnny Rider,

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I think this is a case

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where love does not
conquer all.

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They don't care about
what other people

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are trying to instill in them.

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They'll always buck control.

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They'll always view authority
as being something negative.

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And then with these two
in particular, I think we have

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an element of fire and ice,

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with Johnny Rider being
this fuel, this fire,

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that really
propels violence.

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And then we have
this ice of Bjorge,

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where not that she's calculated,

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but that there's
an element of coldness.

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There's an element
of distantness.

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There's an element of --
she's willing to do

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whatever she wants
to whomever she wants.

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And she will
use her weapon, Johnny,

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however it is
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[Dr. Vienna] So the most
jarring thing

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about this whole interview
with Bjorge is that

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never did she show
any ounce of remorse,

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very, very little emotion,
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And at the very end, when she's
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that she hasn't shown any
emotion, that's sort of like

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her cue to put on
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She even, like,
conjures up some tears.

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And I think it's her last bid
to the detectives that,

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you know, she does feel remorse

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and she's gonna
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I think it's starting to set in
for her that she's gonna be

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held accountable
and that makes her upset.

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The heartless
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of what the two of you did
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it's not...

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it's not worth my fight.